i did a nice steak dinner....i love to grill/cook....and somehow and for some reason wife brings up jw issues tonight....i really really try to lay off as far as bringing things up.....but anyway....it went on...and on ...and damm that is not good, cause i will speak up if i am given the opportunity........so i really have actually asked four of my good elder buddies for a year "how can i get my faith back?
"......i hate that i lost my faith!....but these guys have never lifted a finger!!!
(cause they know they have no answers).......so she keeps saying i have not done that...actually asked for help!
Oompa:
If you don't want other people's opinions and comments on your life, then don't post the details to a public discussion forum. Try writing in a journal instead or talking to your therapist.
Your request is the equivalent of saying, I want the hundreds of current members of this DISCUSSION forum to be SILENT so I can VENT to my heart's content without any FEEDBACK.
It's never going to happen but kudos for the balls presumptuousness to ask.
hi guys and gals... you've probably read my earlier post regarding the prodigal son question and how the jc sent me packing... well, after talking with a good friend of mine i decided to move a new cong.
where the elders have known me for many years and actually appreciate me as a person... at first i was planning on handing this letter in person so i went but their meeting time had changed so i called one of the elders in my reinstatement jc and asked him for the meeting days but he said 'it would be better if i mailed it' to which i replied 'do you just not want me around your congregation, is that it?
he said again it would just be better to mail it again and left it at that.
It doesn't seem like you're doing much laughing. Some vomiting and choking, but no laughing.
Our brains may try to bamboozle us with innumerable bull shit stories but our bodies never lie. They always tell the truth. You just have to be willing to listen to the message.
Your son is your family. Do you want him to grow up in this joy-sucking religion and one day be made to feel as shitty and low as you do now?
actually...i am just hoping that mo/betta sex is just a huge fringe benefit (really hoping that!!!!!!!
) ......i may start going one or two times a month........and it was an idea handed to me by my friend bonnzo here.
he is a great guy all around....who loves his old pioneer mom enough to keep going to the meetings a bit instead of doing what we would both like to and walk away......actually we both would probably prefer that all our family and friends walked away and then it would not even be like walking away.
I agree with Drew. What has worked for me with my family is not logic because their beliefs are driven by emotion: fear, guilt, shame, to name a few. What works with JW's is to set firm boundaries and stick to them. Refuse to engage with their silly rules or get caught up in their emotional dramas.
in connecticut, a jw went to a catholic hospital for an infection on his heel and specifically ordered them not to give him blood.
evidently, he awoke from his procedure and realized he was receiving blood!
he began to hysterically cry and the hospital acknowledged they had erred.
I never said that it did. I just asked what the damages were. How would one award for damages where it is difficult to show any damage?
in connecticut, a jw went to a catholic hospital for an infection on his heel and specifically ordered them not to give him blood.
evidently, he awoke from his procedure and realized he was receiving blood!
he began to hysterically cry and the hospital acknowledged they had erred.
Let me ask you this. What are your damages if a cop comes up and randomely decides to strip search you? He doesn't tear your clothes, but he's not particularly gentle as he runs his hands everywhere, including into your anal cavity. Admitedly this is an intentional act. But still, what are your damages? Will you come up to him later and thank him for working to combat crime and keeping you safe?
Oh, I see you're using three watchtower-ish techniques in your argument. First, is answering a question with another question which is the same as not answering the question at all, second, is making a poor analogy by comparing two very dissimiliar events, and the third is trying to introduce an emotional "hook" into the argument by comparing a necessary medical procedure to the violation of a sexual assault.
In spite of all these cheap courtroom tricks of yours, I would say you are ultimately agreeing with me. The damages in the second case are the same as I said they were in the first case. Mental anguish.
actually...i am just hoping that mo/betta sex is just a huge fringe benefit (really hoping that!!!!!!!
) ......i may start going one or two times a month........and it was an idea handed to me by my friend bonnzo here.
he is a great guy all around....who loves his old pioneer mom enough to keep going to the meetings a bit instead of doing what we would both like to and walk away......actually we both would probably prefer that all our family and friends walked away and then it would not even be like walking away.
For me, it isn't so much about pride as it is about living with integrity.
in connecticut, a jw went to a catholic hospital for an infection on his heel and specifically ordered them not to give him blood.
evidently, he awoke from his procedure and realized he was receiving blood!
he began to hysterically cry and the hospital acknowledged they had erred.
Again, isn't there some kind of damage inherent in assault? How was this man damaged?
in connecticut, a jw went to a catholic hospital for an infection on his heel and specifically ordered them not to give him blood.
evidently, he awoke from his procedure and realized he was receiving blood!
he began to hysterically cry and the hospital acknowledged they had erred.
You mean for screwing up his treatment, right?
If the patient is requesting sub-standard treatment due to his own ignorance and delusions and the doctor "accidentally" forgets and provides the standard "best" treatment for his condition, I don't know that I would classify it as "screwing it up". I'll concede that the doctor screwed up the sub standard treatment plan and replaced it with a better one.
You're studying law John, so I repeat my question. Just what were the patients damages in this case? Mental anguish is the best I could come up with.
actually...i am just hoping that mo/betta sex is just a huge fringe benefit (really hoping that!!!!!!!
) ......i may start going one or two times a month........and it was an idea handed to me by my friend bonnzo here.
he is a great guy all around....who loves his old pioneer mom enough to keep going to the meetings a bit instead of doing what we would both like to and walk away......actually we both would probably prefer that all our family and friends walked away and then it would not even be like walking away.
I think it pretty clear that some people have no sex drive and no desire. Do you disagree? What happens when a relationship is one sided regarding this aspect, but strong in others? Would it be wrong for a spouse with no sex drive to have sex for the benefit of his or her partner? Would the relationship be unhealthy?
I think what ever a couple can negotiate that makes them both happy is fine. Knowing yourself and being honest and upfront is crucial. If one partner has a very strong sex drive and the other's is non-existent, this is a basic incompatibility that would be a deal-breaker for many. However, if the rest of the relationship is so strong that the one partner is willing to forgo a lot of sex to keep it or the other partner is willing to have sex when they really have no interest or desire, then there is nothing wrong with it or unhealthy about it. Honesty and openness is the key to that working out.
What won't work is if one person pretends to want sex or the other is silently resentful they are not getting enough. Or, if they start thinking, "Ok, I made this sacrifice for you, now you owe me something in return. What are you going to do for me.
Generally, the more compatibilities two people have, (sexual, religious, or otherwise), the greater chance of being able to negotiate a successful relationship.
actually...i am just hoping that mo/betta sex is just a huge fringe benefit (really hoping that!!!!!!!
) ......i may start going one or two times a month........and it was an idea handed to me by my friend bonnzo here.
he is a great guy all around....who loves his old pioneer mom enough to keep going to the meetings a bit instead of doing what we would both like to and walk away......actually we both would probably prefer that all our family and friends walked away and then it would not even be like walking away.
I think men and women who claim to love each other can transcend this type of behaviour.
The implication implicit in that statement is that it's something that needs transcending. Upon what do you base that assessment?
I didn't mean to imply that John. If both people are happy with the kind of sexual relationship where the woman says, "hey if you buy me a new dress today or come to the kingdom hall with me tonight then I willl give you a blow job tomorrow", then it works for them and good for them.
For myself, personally, I do want a relationship with a partner where there is a deep physical, emotional, intellectual and spiritual connection with my partner. I don't believe that kind of behaviour leads to that outcome. If others are satisfied with less, then who am I to criticize. Oompa just doesn't seem very satisfied to me....
ps: Formatting: I can't find the button to box the quotes anymore. Can someone tell me where it is?
